question:
why don't you tell us a little bit about the attitude with which korn went into
the studio with this time? what were you hoping to achieve? jonathan:
our only goal was to take our time on this album because i knew we had it in us
that we could do something great, fully integrate both albums and put out an
album that we could really be proud of. because, shit! the first album only took
four months to write, record and mix. this one took nine, so... i mean that was
our attitude and we wanted to do some phat shit.
question: what’s really amazing about the music of korn is that you
really created this really intense hybrid sound that has elements of hip-hop, it
has elements of brain eno experimentation. why don't you tell us about what goes
into the creation of the korn sound--what happens during the writing process?
jonathan: for us it just pretty much happens. we just stick to that
sick, weird, eerie vibe and then throw hip-hop elements into it. it's strange, i
don't know how to explain it. we just do what we do to be honest. it's also a
combination of all our different influences--there's no big heads in our band.
everybody's got their little bits that they put in. like fieldy with his hip-hop
influences. me with my melodies and all my `80's drama that i love. i love that
era. munky is always into john zorn and the (mr.) bungle stuff and so is head.
so i think it just creates a cool musical cocktail or whatever you want to call
it. yeah, it's putting chaos into music. because all the sounds are all
dissonant and just fucked up. it's not really all in key. it all melts together
into something that's got melody.
question: do you write with the philosophy that if you can't play
something in concert, you don't record it? jonathan: yes. the only
time we would do that is if we record something that's way underneath like in a
chorus that you can barely hear on a record. if it just adds mood, that's okay.
but as far as a main part, no way.
question: what do you personally contribute to korn's sound and to
follow the leader in particular? jonathan: my thoughts going into
this record were that i've already sung two albums of just straight fuckin'
cathartic rage. to keep myself real and to keep my integrity, i gotta move on. i
mean, there are only so many things in my life i can scream about. it's getting
ridiculous. i want to keep that going and become a better singer. i've always
wanted to be a true singer. i think on this album i finally became a singer and
i still got across with my melodies what i was feeling. to me, melodies are more
fucking intense than a scream. if it's such an intense melody, i feel it even
more. it just takes me somewhere. it's spiritual. that's all i wanted to do on
this album. it's time for me to move on. i don't want to stay the same or take a
step down. i just want to move on and do something exciting and new and make
people go, 'fuck.'
question: what's your favorite new sound or technique that you used
for the first time on this album? jonathan: i got this voice-bender
like a synthesizer... i don't know what it's called, but it does all this weird
shit. i used it on this album and i thought it would be cool to hear what i
could do with my voice. it worked well. i got all kinds of crazy effects on that
thing. i use it on almost the whole album. it makes my voice lower, makes it
sound like i'm in a megaphone, it doubles my voice, makes it sound like i have a
wah-wah on my voice. it does all kinds of things.
question: how do you think working with new producers helped enhance
the korn sound? how was it different than your previous albums with ross
robinson? jonathan: it helped a lot. i mean, we got direction, but we
basically did it all on our own. a lot of the stuff we did with ross we all
co-produced. i don't know, like sounds and stuff, all the sounds they came up
with, whether it was him or munky or head, they were all going "we like this
sound or that sound," it wasn't just ross telling us what to do. with steve
(thompson), the direction that he gave us was fine, but we were doing that shit
already. so when he came in we were just working on arrangements and stuff.
tone-wise, it was caco that was coming up with the tones most of the time. caco
and munky and toby would just make them tune in just right.
question: let's just talk about that dissonance and that fucked up
sound. something that certainly you've explored in your lyrics, like child
abuse. it's almost like when listening to korn, and hearing that you guys are so
angry that you've inherited such a fucked up world with things like child
molestation. it's like korn uses your music to cathartically just lash against
the fact that you've inherited such a fucked up legacy? jonathan:
yeah, i am really pissed off that i inherited it. i wish sometimes i was born
back in the day because today's society is just so fucked up. now it's just
ridiculous. when i write, i think about how a lot of people are in the closet
about their thoughts. that's a shame. they should at least talk about the bad
things going on, and don't act on it. don't keep it all inside, so when you
explode you actually do something bad. it's like...get it out. my writing is my
venting process.
question: how do you feel about all these parents that have come out
and condemned you for your music? they don't realize that they've actually
created the problems korn sing about. jonathan: i know. they're the
ones that did it. we gotta thank the parents for doing that to kids. it's like
thanks for making our lives hell. because of you, we're here.
question: what are your musical influences, and what books or films or
any other cultural stimuli do you feel inspires you? jonathan: the
only thing that influences me is the '80's. i love that era. it was all just so
musical. everything was just fucking exciting. in every aspect of all the music:
the goth scene, the industrial scene, the fuckin' new wave scene and the metal
scene, everything was so new and fuckin' awesome. and it just seems that the
`90's have totally just sucked, especially the alternative thing. the only thing
that was good was the grunge movement. we killed everything. but stuff like
duran duran, culture club...those melodies were incredible. they were all great.
i mean, look how many hits devo had! like "whip it" (singing)..."everybody, it's
a good thing." all those songs. just one after another. all that shit was really
good and fun to listen to. it wasn't like this cheesy alternative shit right
now. so yeah, i'd say that the '80s stuff--that way of singing--truly influenced
me. i dug all that shit.
question: how do you feel about the current state of music, and what
is korn contributing to it that’s different? jonathan: i think the
current state of music sucks. there are only a few bands that are worth a shit
out there: deftones, limp bizkit and us. and, now there's orgy and videodrone,
but i'm saying for us, as far as our kind of music, i think it really is sad
that we're the only good thing that's come around in the '90s, anything heavy.
it seems like everything went soft, and i think that korn is contributing to it
by creating a new style of music and bringing heavy music back, putting the
"rock" back in "rock & roll." 'cause it seems like it's gotten really stale.
bands are just too "la la la" and happy now. there's no fun in it anymore, it
lost its fun. i think that the only cool thing that came out of the '90s is limp
bizkit, deftones and us.
question: what's interesting about korn's music is how some people
have said korn is "heavy metal," but you have said that some people say that
you're trying to kill "heavy metal." jonathan: yeah. heavy metal to
me is like iron maiden, helloween, those heavy metal bands. not the glam bands.
but they've always called us heavy metal and it fuckin' pisses me off because
that's just fucked up. they put us in that category, but i don't know what to
call it. no one has come up with a really good fuckin' name to call this.
nirvana had grunge and i guess that was cool. but there's been emo-core,
heavy-hop, post-metal and nü metal. none of those really ring a bell.
question: what did the sudden cancellation of lollapalooza because of
munky's illness mean to you as an individual and to korn as a band?
jonathan: i was pissed, but i was more worried about munky anyway.
but when i found out we had to pull off i wasn't pissed at him, i was just
pissed that he got sick because we were just having fun. we could have played
without him, but we chose to pull off, because we weren't going to play without
him. it was hard, but we were worried for munky. we wanted him to be fine and we
wanted him to get home and get well so we could start working on the next album.
question: what inspired you to work with todd mcfarlane--the creator
of the spawn comic book--for the album artwork? jonathan: al masocco
(epic's vp of marketing) actually hooked that up for us and i really fuckin'
liked his art when i saw "spawn." that shit's just scary. and i thought it would
go along great with us. and todd never did any album covers. he had great big
fuckin' offers from metallica, marilyn manson, and he thought that we were like
the doors of the '90's. so he was totally into it, and we thought that it would
be a good idea. so fieldy came up with the concept of the children jumping off a
cliff. it was really cool. we really dug it. my friend sean is the one who
initially drew some pictures of the hopscotch thing, and he totally fuckin'
turned it around and made it look fucked up. all these little korn children,
"children of the korn," jumping down off the cliff onto the earth, which is
below them. so it's like they're just jumping off the cliff onto the earth,
losing their innocence and becoming fucked like all of us. in a sense, it's the
doom of living i guess. so sean sketched out that idea up for us and then todd
ran with it. the cover continues that theme that korn has on every album. there
are always images of children and the fucked-up-ness is always there. because
innocence is fuckin' scary. it leaves a big-fuckin' space for your mind to go
off. it's really scary. children are always scared when they're all happy and
stuff. they're the most beautiful thing in the world, but when you see it in our
artwork, the way we've placed it, it's just kinda fuckin' weird. it makes you
think a lot.
question: what are your personal goals for elementree records?
jonathan: we created elementree because of what we did with limp
bizkit. we all met the band, got the tape and we thought it was bad-ass. so we
passed it on to ross (robinson) and they got the deal with flip. then we took
them on the road. after all those tours, taking them under our wing, and seeing
how they've achieved their success, we got this idea with jeff (kwatinetz,
korn's manager). fuck, we could do this on our own label and take care of these
bands and they wouldn't have to go through all this crazy bullshit that we did.
'cause we know, we've been there. so we decided to open up this label. i'm
really happy.
question: what inspired you to create the "family values" tour?
jonathan: it was the brain-child of jeff (kwatinetz, korn's manager),
thinking that we could do this thing right because we saw what happened with
"lollapalooza," putting shitty bands together and it not really working out. we
wanted something that was really pumpin' with something new, something that had
spark to it. we really wanted something special, so we got the idea for "family
values" to put together all the up-and-coming heavy bands. we did it and let's
rock! i don't know how far off into the future we'll have it. personally, i'd
like to see it go out three or four times and then we'll probably just end it
because by then, it will probably just burn out. that's what happened to
"lollapalooza." but i'd like to have it go out a good four times...as long as
there's good, new music coming out.
question: can you describe the on-stage chemistry in korn?
jonathan: we just pump each other up. there's something there. we all
look over at each other going off and it just pumps us up even more. we just
have this chemistry together and it just works. i don't know how to explain it,
it's just there.
question: what inspired you to create "korn-tv," the internet network,
and where do you hope to take it in the future? jonathan: we were
inspired to do it 'cause of what we did in the past. when we released our second
album, life is peachy, we did "korn mangles the web" with l.a. live and that was
a two-hour long show. with this album, we wanted to do something special,
something different, and our manager said that there were these tv-like shows on
the web, but a band had never done one. we wanted to do those shows, and do it
like eight times and make it like a real tv show with a real tv station since
there's no censorship and we could do whatever the fuck we wanted. and we did.
and we hope to build it up and make it a company where bands can advertise on
our channel and stuff.
question: what's your favorite song on the album? jonathan:
"pretty." 'cause it's a bad-ass song. it's just really a beautiful song. it's
beautiful chaos.
question: from "all in the family," what's your favorite anti-jonathan
line and your favorite anti-fred line? jonathan: my favorite
anti-fred line is "wannabe funkdoobiest while you're playin' ripping off a band
counterfeit, fakin', plus your bills i'm payin'." my favorite anti-me is
"where'd you get that little dance?"
question: if you had the chance to change places with any other member
of the band, who would it be and why? jonathan: i wouldn't want to be
anybody else. i'm the man!
question: what five albums would you want to be stranded on a deserted
island with? jonathan: "new wave hits of the '80s," volumes
1-whatever, hank williams' greatest hits, limp bizkit's "three dollar bill,
y'all$," deftones' "around the fur" and duran duran's "rio."
question: if you could bring five items with you on the road from your
house, what would you take? jonathan: five items? damn! aw, shit! my
computer. shit. i don't know how to make this cool. my computer, a picture of my
son, of my family. my hank williams cds (he's the most angst ridden, depressing
singer i've ever heard in my life). um...let me see. what else? that's three.
what else would i bring? i'm trying to think. um...fuck, that's it i guess.
question: describe your life, right now in five words or less.
jonathan: i'm stressed out...and comfortable.
question: if you could open for one of your favorite musicians, dead
or alive, who would it be? jonathan: the doors.
question: what's the best advice you have for an aspiring musician?
jonathan: turn back.
question: why don't you tell us a little bit about the attitude with
which korn went into the studio with this time? what were you hoping to
achieve? munky: i think for the band it would be to gain the respect
of our fellow musicians. i don't know. of course we wanna sell as many albums or
more than the first two. i think that would be one of the band's goals. i think
that we've already achieved the success on this record because we're all 100%
happy with all the songs. that was the personal goal for me.
question: what’s really amazing about the music of korn is that you
really created this really intense hybrid sound that has elements of hip-hop, it
has elements of brain eno experimentation. why don't you tell us about what goes
into the creation of the korn sound--what happens during the writing process?
munky: it's spun from a basic guitar riff, or a bass and drum groove,
and we just kind of feed off of that and build off that one thing as a band.
it's weird with us. when we write, jonathan just kind of hums melodies. it's
kind of like the songs are just born.
question: do you write with the philosophy that if you can't play
something in concert, you don't record it? munky: well, not
necessarily. because recording is different. you can pull out little tricks. as
long as you can come close to it, you can recreate it live. but mainly we want
to recreate everything live. we have that in the back of our mind. but if we've
come across a cool sound and it's worth putting it on the album, we'll still
figure out later how to pull it off live. head and i have a lot of work to do to
recreate some of the cool stuff that we did on this album. we'll be able to do
it.
question: what's your favorite new sound or technique that you used
for the first time on this album? munky: the talk box was cool. i
learned how to incorporate the talk box into our sound a little bit. it just
adds a mood, and it kind of sets the mood for a song without necessarily adding
words to accompany it. just kind of like an underneath sound. i actually wanted
to experiment with it for a while, but never really felt it was in korn's genre
of sound. but the way we used it was very subtle and tasteful and conservative.
question: how do you feel the production was different on this album
than it was on the last album? munky: we took our time instead of
rushing through it. the last record seemed kind of rushed as opposed to this
one. i think that people were afraid that the intensity of the first album would
go away too quickly. we kind of already had a buzz and wanted to stay out there
and stay in the public's face. so we put a record out prematurely.
question: how do you think working with new producers helped enhance
the korn sound? how was it different than your previous albums with ross
robinson? munky: i think working with a new producer and going into a
new studio helped us grow musically as a band. we really feel excited about all
of us having that fire again and being excited about a record. we all feel like
we grew, like when you grow out of some new shoes. your feet are crammed in
forever and you know that you need to buy a new pair but you need to save up the
money to do it. we kind of saved up our confidence and made that leap in our new
shoes.
question: do you feel like you could relate to jonathan's lyrics even
though he writes about his own personal experiences? munky: i think
that most of our fans can relate to some of the experiences that he's had. but i
don't really think anyone can understand jonathan and where he's coming from.
it's him, it's his pain, his anguish. no one's pain hurts worse than your own. i
relate to an extent, but i can't say that i relate to him 100% because no one
ever will.
question: compared to when you first started to record the album, how
do you think the band has evolved? munky: i think we've all matured
as people and i think it shows in our music. we just all kind of grew as people
and it's subconsciously in our music.
question: what are your musical influences, and what books or films or
any other cultural stimuli do you feel inspires you? munky: korn
inspires me. brian was a big musical influence on me. everyone in the band is a
major musical influence on me. and films make me feel a certain way, especially
"gummo" and "blue velvet." those movies put me in an uncomfortable
state--uncomfortable but so familiar to me, it feels like a comfort zone. it's
similar to the way i feel when i'm writing a guitar part or something.
question: could you describe what happened when you got sick and had
to cancel lollapalooza, and how you fought it? munky: it was pretty
confusing when i first got sick because i really didn't know what was happening
to me. i wasn't sure what i had. i wanted to die. literally. i was so sick. i
had migraine headaches and i was vomiting. i was completely miserable. i was
stressed out. i didn't know what was going on with me. i also didn't want to
leave the tour because i knew it was one of the band's long time dreams to be on
the lollapalooza tour. the only thing i was thinking about when i was in the
hospital was when i was going to get better so i could get back out on tour. i
was just in pain, physical pain. and it was so horrible that it was causing me
mental pain because i wasn't sure what i had. once i found out what i had, it
eased the mental pain, because it was a relief to know what it was. for this
tour, i'll try to have a better diet and do the basic things people should
normally do to keep themselves well. i'll take good care of myself on the tour.
question: what inspired you to work with todd mcfarlane--the creator
of the spawn comic book--for the album artwork? munky: i respect him
as an artist.
question: what are your personal goals for elementree records?
munky: to give the world some new talent. that's what our goal is.
question: if you had the chance to change places with any other member
of the band, who would it be and why? munky: i don't want to be any
of them. i wouldn't want to. i bet everyone said me if you've asked them the
same question. "i want to change places with munky!"
question: what's your favorite song on the album? munky:
that's tough. i think "b.b.k." is a nice rounded out song--it has all the
elements of korn in that one song.
question: if you could bring five items with you on the road from your
house, what would you take? munky: well, i would say a dog. but i
don't have a dog. but i'm sure i will soon, so i'll say a dog, my journal.
uh...a good pair of shoes and...my pillow.
question: describe your life, right now in five words or less.
munky: lucky, grateful and loved.
question: if you could open for one of your favorite musicians, dead
or alive, who would it be? munky: i guess i'm gonna have to go with
mr. bungle.
question: what's the best advice you have for an aspiring musician?
munky: i would tell them to try not to be too technical with your
music, and try to listen with your heart, not your head.
question: any final thoughts? munky: i never have a final
statement. be good kids!
question: why don't you tell us a little bit about the attitude with
which korn went into the studio with this time? what were you hoping to
achieve? head: i mostly want people to respect us for this record.
question: what’s really amazing about the music of korn is that you
really created this really intense hybrid sound that has elements of hip-hop, it
has elements of brain eno experimentation. why don't you tell us about what goes
into the creation of the korn sound--what happens during the writing process?
head: when we write, someone plays something and everyone tries it
and then we see if everyone's vibin' off it. if it sounds good, we'll keep goin'
to another part. sometimes we'll play it for four bars and then everyone's just
doin' their own thing with it. we just all play it and it sounds like a big
mess. sooner or later, someone usually comes up with something cool. then we
just build the song from there. sometimes we'll throw it away. sometimes i'll
write a song and we'll all try it and we'll say, "it's good, but it's not
great." so we'll just toss it. sometimes we get parts together and we’ll say,
‘that's not that good.’ then two weeks or a month later, we'll try it again, or
fit it into something totally different and it'll work very well.
question: do you write with the philosophy that if you can't play
something in concert, you don't record it? head: yes. the only time
we would do that is if we record something that's way underneath like in a
chorus that you can barely hear on a record. if it just adds mood, that's okay.
but as far as a main part, no way.
question: what do you personally contribute to korn’s sound and to
follow the leader in particular? head: i think the combination of my
guitar with munky’s makes our sound more interesting and doubly-creative. he
thinks of stuff i wouldn't think of, and i think of stuff that he wouldn't think
of. it's like we're one person. we're one guitar player thinking. it's weird.
question: what's your favorite new sound or technique that you used
for the first time on this album? head: i like the digitech pedal
tuned up an octave so it sounds kind of like a harp. that's one of my favorites.
question: how do you feel the production was different on this album
than it was on the last album? head: we experimented more, and we
took a lot more time with sound, creating parts and stuff. we just took our
time. we didn't rush anything.
question: how do you think working with new producers helped enhance
the korn sound? how was it different than your previous albums with ross
robinson? head: it was easier for us to come in and see what we were
doin' and take our sound further. different years do different things. that's
about it.
question: do you feel like you could relate to jonathan's lyrics even
though he writes about his own personal experiences? head: yeah,
definitely. stupid shit like that happens all the time. anyone can relate to his
lyrics. that's why people love his lyrics, `cause you can relate to them so
easily. it happens to everybody. i can relate to most of them personally, but i
can’t get into his mind and relate to the songs that are really intimate to him.
question: was there a particular sound that you came up with on this
album that surprised you? head: yeah, the intro and verse to “dead
bodies everywhere” that sounds like it’s a baby’s crib. i was thinking of
something sick ‘cause the lyrics to the song were goin' back to jon's childhood.
so i wanted to put something innocent sounding in there to fit with an evil
sounding thing that munky had already. so we blended like good and evil together
on the intro part. it's the digitech pedal.
question: what are your musical influences, and what books or films or
any other cultural stimuli do you feel inspires you? head: scary
movies inspire me. i was really into the "friday the 13th" movies, the good ones
like the second and third ones when i was young. queen was what inspired me to
be a guitar player, ac/dc, ted nugent and billy joel too. there was this billy
joel record that was just fun to listen to and i remember saying, "i want to do
that!" then i started listening to queen and i heard some cool drums. i wanted
to play drums, but my dad was like, "well, you can play drums, but would you
rather haul around a huge ass drum set or a guitar and an amp? why don't you try
the guitar and see if you like it?” i tried it and i loved it.
question: how do you feel about the current state of music, and what
is korn contributing to it that’s different? head: i don't know, man.
i like some shit like cube and deftones. there's a few out there that i can
pick, very few probably. i think we just add a new, but real thing. i think it's
real and alive and we get it out to the fans. i think it's better than being on
tv.
question: what did the sudden cancellation of lollapalooza because of
munky's illness mean to you as an individual and to korn as a band?
head: i really didn't care about quitting lollapalooza. it was a
really fun tour and i cared about that, but i wasn't thinking, “oh man, we had
to cancel.” i just wanted munky to get better because the more we heard about
it, the more serious it sounded. i didn't care about anything else. we were
asked to maybe play without him and tell the audience at each show. we were
gonna try it but there was no way. we're not gonna go out there half-assed. we
gotta play with all five members. i didn't even think twice about it. i just
wanted him to get better. the fans didn't want anything bad to happen to him
either. after we left the tour, even tool started asking everyone to say a
prayer for munky and stuff like that.
question: what inspired you to work with todd mcfarlane--the creator
of the spawn comic book--for the album artwork? head: he liked our
band and i knew his artwork was out there. he knew that we were a band that was
out there and he's the same way in art so i think it was a good collaboration
thing.
question: what are your personal goals for elementree records?
head: for me, i just want to get bands that have their own sound and
create cutting edge music. it's a label where bands can start their own trend.
question: can you describe the on-stage chemistry in korn?
head: we just feed off each other's energy. some shows are just crazy
like this one in germany where we went onstage and this dark cloud came over the
crowd. it was an outdoor venue and everyone started going crazy, jumping up and
down. then when we got off stage, the cloud bailed. we feed off the fans too,
like when the crowd's goin' nuts, it will energize us and vice versa.
question: what inspired you to create "korn-tv," the internet network,
and where do you hope to take it in the future? head: to show our
fans what we were doing, to show them how we created the record and show real
pieces of us in action. i would like a tv or internet station that would play
the videos we like all day. who knows if that'll happen, but that would be nice.
question: what's your favorite song on the album? head: i
like “it’s on!” and “children of the korn.” if i had to pick one, it would be
“children of the korn.”
question: from "all in the family," what's your favorite anti-jonathan
line and your favorite anti-fred line? head: my favorite fred line is
"go back to the dentist and buy yourself a new grill" and jonathan’s is "come on
hillbilly, can your horse do a fuckin' wheelie?"
question: if you had the chance to change places with any other member
of the band, who would it be and why? head: fieldy so i could be a
dick all the time. no, jonathan so i could be the front man. i'd like to change
for one show, just be the front man. if i could sing like him though. feel what
it would be like to be the main guy.
question: what five albums would you want to be stranded on a deserted
island with? head: faith no more’s "the real thing," deftones'
"adrenaline," ice cube’s "predator," u2’s "joshua tree," and follow the leader.
question: if you could bring five items with you on the road from your
house, what would you take? head: my toothbrush, jacuzzi, my bed, my
bedspread (it's really soft), and my trees. my trees inside my house. i like to
take care of them.
question: describe your life, right now in five words or less.
head: happy, healthy, and fulfilled.
question: if you could open for one of your favorite musicians, dead
or alive, who would it be? head: beastie boys.
question: what's the best advice you have for an aspiring musician?
head: best advice is to play from your heart and there are no rules.
when i was coming up, people, like guitar teachers, were telling me all these
things. we do some out of key stuff that totally works and people would tell me
it's not right. works fine for me.
question: do you write with the philosophy that if you can't play
something in concert, you don't record it? fieldy: everything we do on
the album, we do live. if we can't pull it off live, then we don't record it on
the album.
question: what do you personally contribute to korn's sound and to
follow the leader in particular? fieldy: my sound is more like a
drummer. i'm a percussion-sounding bass player. a lot of times people think that
what they're hearing is drums and it's actually in the bass. for instance, when
les claypool (of primus) heard some of the new stuff, like “b.b.k.,” he said,
“that's a pretty cool double kick!” and it wasn't, it was my bass. on the
business side of korn, i do all the t-shirt designs for korn, all the
merchandise, like the hats and stickers. all the merchandise you see. that's all
me. i think everybody could do it. i think everybody's just lazy. so i end up
being the one that does it all. i come up with a bunch of designs, show them to
the band. they either approve or disapprove.
question: what's your favorite new sound or technique that you used
for the first time on this album? fieldy: i think my favorite thing
was the bass synthesizer. it's a pedal. you can give it pretty much any kind of
sound you want. i use it a lot on the new album. now everybody can go out and
buy it and start bitin' my style.
question: how do you feel the production was different on this album
than it was on the last album? fieldy: i guess we had a budget of
$500,000 rather than $150,000. that's production right there. if you have money,
then you can make things happen. of course, it's gonna sound better, ‘cause we
had a bigger budget. we also just got out of a 1902 studio and moved into an
updated 1998 studio. pretty much all of us put the modern technology to use. we
broke out all the new pedals and effects and crap like that.
question: how do you think working with new producers helped enhance
the korn sound? how was it different than your previous albums with ross
robinson? fieldy: we were going for a whole other level, so we thought
we'd try a new producer. toby wright, who finished it with us, is someone we'll
probably work with again because we really liked working with him. he was on our
level. he had good ideas. he had a good ear for tone and all that crap. when you
listen to the new album, you feel like you just went on a huge rollercoaster
ride. there’s a lot of dynamics in it, a lot of ups and downs. it's pretty
crazy. that's how i always feel. i feel like i just got off the colossus at
magic mountain. compared to the other two albums, this one's gonna make those
two look boring. we do what we do. the producers come in and say, “that's cool.”
i mean some producers do more than others. like me working with videodrone
(korn’s second signing to their elementree records), i actually write a lot of
the music with them and arrange a lot of shit. but on our new record, the person
who came up with a lot of the tones and effects that were used was caco, our
guitar tech.
question: do you feel like you could relate to jonathan's lyrics even
though he writes about his own personal experiences? fieldy: i think
everybody can from our generation. not just me, personally. pretty much
everybody we know is just about in our age bracket, and we were all kinda raised
the same.
question: was there a particular sound that you came up with on this
album that surprised you? fieldy: the only thing that surprised me
was that i came up with "children of the korn" which we did with ice cube. i did
everything with that song. i just went into the back room one day, when the
other guys were working, and i ended up playing the bass guitar, drum
beats...everything on that song. it turned out really phat. i just laid down the
drums first, put the bass down, and even played the sitar on it. then i played a
couple of guitars on it. it all only took one day.
question: compared to when you first started to record the album, how
do you think the band has evolved? fieldy: musically? we’ve evolved
so much, it's gonna take us a long time to learn how to play these songs. i mean
it's totally like musicians are gonna trip out on it.
question: did you come up with so many new sounds during the recording
process that the songs don't sound anything like they first did when you wrote
them? fieldy: some of the songs sound a lot different, `cause when we
left rehearsals and finally got in the studio, we started running a lot of
pedals and effects and crap like that through them. when jon got to do all his
backing vocals, he ended up changing a lot of them, period. there were a few
songs that we totally hated. we were like, `no way. they're not gonna make it on
the record.' and now they’re like our favorite songs. “justin.” was one of those
songs. that was like a “for sure, no way going to make it on the album” song.
when jon ended up changing some shit, and all his vocals, it became one of our
favorite songs. and a song called “pretty”; that was another one. after jon
changed the vocals, and munky and head changed their guitars, it ended up being
the best song on the record.
question: what are your musical influences, and what books or films or
any other cultural stimuli do you feel inspires you? fieldy: the only
thing that inspires me is hip-hop--all west-coast hip-hop. not that i favor
west-coast or east-cost, but that’s just what seems to inspire me. just the
beats and the style.
question: how do you feel about the current state of music, and what
is korn contributing to it that’s different? fieldy: i think it's
horrible right now. like alternative music, i hate it. it's crap. it's garbage.
it's fuckin' weak ‘cause it's all the same. but i think in the next few years,
it's gonna be really good. what's different about what we're doing? there's no
label for us. they always had a label. i mean, pearl jam, they were called
grunge. and then you had heavy metal. and then you have us. what's korn like?
nobody ever has a label for us.
question: what is the sudden cancellation of lollapalooza because of
munky's illness mean to you as an individual and to korn as a band?
fieldy: when it came down to it, all that really mattered was for him
to get better. nothing really mattered but his health. we can always tour, but
if he's dead...we're not touring. of course we can get another guitar player,
but it'll never be the same. so we were just concerned about him getting better.
if it meant canceling the whole tour, then that's what it meant. we gave it a
few days, he wasn't getting any better. we gave it a week and we just said,
“fuck this.” even if he does get better, he needs to be off, relax and get well.
our fans pretty much know korn don't cancel shows for no reason. i think they
got the vibe, and they knew this was a pretty serious occasion. i think all the
fans were really understanding and they backed us 100%. as far as what the band
thought, i don't think anything could have brought us closer together, because
we've grown-up together. we're already like brothers--we've known each other for
15 years.
question: what are your personal goals for elementree records?
fieldy: i think we'd all like to sign some bands that everybody is
scared to sign. that's pretty much our goal and, of course, to make them as big
as korn, if not bigger. i think the’90’s are really hurting for some music. you
only have a handful of good bands right now.
question: what inspired you to create the “family values” tour?
fieldy: we wanted to do a tour where we bring the bands we like with
us. everybody is in the same vibe instead of putting a “lollapalooza” together
that's half slow-ass bands and some reggae. fuck that. “family values” is a
dream tour for us. and this is going to be an annual thing, too whether korn is
on it or not. and we’ll arrange it, too, setting up the bands who will be on it.
question: can you describe the on-stage chemistry in korn?
fieldy: we just feed off each other and the crowd. we push ourselves
so hard, it's like when we walk off stage, it's like we're going to collapse. a
few times a couple of us have. and i don't know how everybody else feels, but
personally, when i'm playing that music and it's that loud, it fuckin' makes me
go crazy. i guess there could be no crowd out there and it wouldn't matter. yeah
the crowd enhances our performance when people are going crazy. still, playing
that aggressive, groovin'-ass music just makes you go nuts. especially when it's
loud as fuck.
question: what’s your favorite song on the album? fieldy:
on this album there is so much variety, you can't pick out your favorite because
they’re all different. but if i had to play one song for somebody, i guess it
would be “freak on a leash.” i think it has a little bit of everything that korn
is about. i tend to play that one the most.
question: from “all in the family,” what's your favorite anti-jonathan
line and your favorite anti-fred line? fieldy: i think i like when
fred says, “i'll jack off in your eye, you pumpkin pie.” and when jon says,
“come on hillbilly can your horse do a fuckin' wheelie?”
question: if you had the chance to change places with any other member
of the band, who would it be and why? fieldy: i'd like to get inside
head's head. he's kind of a freak. i'd change places with him and see what's
going on up there.
question: what five albums would you want to be stranded on a deserted
island with? fieldy: the new korn record, of course. chris rock's
live comedy album. the biggest old school hip-hop compilation you could get. so
i could have a variety of a bunch of shit. psycho realm. and erykah badu live.
question: if you could bring five items with you on the road from your
house, what would you take? fieldy: my car, my big screen tv with
surround sound, my couches to go with the big screen, my bed, and a picture of
my two daughters.
question: describe your life, right now in five words or
less. fieldy: i'm fuckin' stressed out man.
question: what's the best advice you have for an inspiring musician?
fieldy: i guess i'd have to say, don't give up. that's all.
question: any final thoughts? fieldy: yeah. look for me to
put out a solo project in 1999 called fieldy’s dreams. i’m gonna be playing all
the instruments on it. keep an eye out for it.
question: why don't you tell us a little bit about the attitude with
which korn went into the studio this time? what were you hoping to
achieve? david: we were hoping to write and record the best record we
could. we didn’t want to make it sound like the first or second record, but we
wanted to keep it sounding like korn. we wanted to take the songs to a new level
even with somewhat of a new writing style. we just basically wanted to make a
good record, one we were happy with, something that sounded like it took a step
up from the first two records.
question: what’s really amazing about the music of korn is that you
really created this really intense hybrid sound that has elements of hip-hop, it
has elements of brain eno experimentation. why don't you tell us about what goes
into the creation of the korn sound--what happens during the writing process?
david: we sit in a rehearsal studio, set up recording equipment and
we meet everyday. unless someone has an idea they thought of at home or
something, we pretty much sit down with our instruments and start trying ideas.
and far as the korn sound goes, it’s just what we like--it was not preconceived
that we have to write like this and make every song like this. we try anything
and if we like it, we use it. it’s pretty much simple as that. there was not a
lot of thought behind the creative direction, and we didn’t say that we have to
stay on this direction--it’s music we like and the way we write the songs.
question: do you write with the philosophy that if you can't play
something in concert, you don't record it? david: yeah, we try to
write like that. there are some overdubs as far as the guitar and vocals go
because obviously jonathan can’t be three people at once. we try to keep it
where the main parts of the songs are always possible to do live so it’s not
missing anything big. it’s much better than bands that have one guitar player,
but on the songs you hear two or three main guitar tracks. and when they play
live, they pick one of the tracks to play and then it’s missing a lot. it really
stands out, i’ve always hated it when i hear bands like that.
question: what's your favorite new sound or technique that you used
for the first time on this album? david: technique-wise, i think i
still play the way i always played. i started using d-drum samplers on this
record, but i actually ended up not using them as much as i thought i would. i
just got a few more shaker sounds and stuff like that. i think the feeling of my
playing on the songs is just really fun, and it’s the way the songs on this
record feel.
question: how do you feel the production was different on this album
than it was on the last album? david: i don’t think the production
was that different, but the studios were a lot different. we used some of the
same equipment, some different equipment which varied in sound. i think since
the studio the album was recorded in, and the studio the record was mixed in
were different studios, it had a dramatic difference on the way the record came
out. that was the main thing on the production.
question: how do you think working with new producers helped enhance
the korn sound? how was it different than your previous albums with ross
robinson? david: as far as the korn sound goes and how it turned into
new sounds as we went, i don't think that had so much to do with a producer. i
think most of it was just writing a record, reflecting on it, then taking all of
our thoughts and using them towards the way we want to write the next record.
i'm not saying i don't think the producer's ideas were good, whether it be steve
or ross. i think that they did have something to do with helping the sound, but
i don't think they had a tremendous amount to do with the sound. i would credit
us very much as far as our sound goes. the biggest difference in recording
follow the leader would probably be toby, the engineer/co-producer, and nrg, the
studio. as far as the quality of the songs, i wouldn't say they got better
because the producers were doing this or that. they helped motivate us. they
helped us to keep going if we were getting tired of writing or whatever. i think
they helped more in that way rather than actually helping us to form a sound. we
just listened to what we did in the past and thought, `you know kind of like
that. we didn't like that. let's go more in this direction.' i think we had more
to do with it than anybody.
question: do you feel like you could relate to jonathan's lyrics even
though he writes about his own personal experiences? david:
personally, i didn't have a bad childhood, but i can relate as far as i've heard
other stories and seen so many things that happen. and every time you turn on
the tv, you hear the awful things that happen to children. i understand it all
even though i didn't have a bad childhood. some of the other issues...i
understand, but he writes a lot about fighting with your own personal insides. i
don't really have things like that going on in my head. i'm pretty at ease with
myself and with my life.
question: are you influenced by any other artists? david:
there's music that i like to listen to, but when it comes to writing our music,
i don't really get influenced by anyone else's music. i get influenced as we
write our music. the part comes up and it influences me to think a certain way
about the part and about how to go about writing to it.
question: how do you feel about the current state of music, and what
is korn contributing to it that’s different? david: what we are
contributing is high-energy music, intense, aggressive music, fun music. and i
think there are more mellow-style bands doing the softer alternative, poppy kind
of sound. i think the scene needed a little bit more of the intense, high-energy
music, which we’re bringing to the fans.
question: what did the sudden cancellation of lollapalooza because of
munky's illness mean to you as an individual and to korn as a
band? david: it was kind of a disappointment, because all of us in the
band had wanted to play “lollapalooza” for so long. we were excited about doing
it. after munky had been in the hospital for a few days rather than a couple of
days--like when it turned into five or six days--everyone started getting really
worried about him. then we said we should probably take him out of the hospital,
take him home to l.a., get him treatment there and get him better, because no
tour was worth anyone’s personal health. we were not going to drag it on and
have him sitting in a hospital feeling this weight on him thinking everyone was
counting the hours for him to get up and come back to the tour and play. it was
kind of disappointing at first about the tour, but everyone was cool with it
because we new it was munky’s personal health that was at stake here. that is
more important than a tour. the business aspect of it was just something we had
to deal with.
question: what inspired you to work with todd mcfarlane--the creator
of the spawn comic book--for the album artwork? david: we had heard
from al masocco (epic vp of marketing) that todd had actually referred to us as
"the doors of the 90's” and it got everyone really excited. so after we were
asked to do the "spawn” soundtrack and we had seen his art, we knew what he was
capable of. al came back and asked us if we were interested in working with him
more. then we approached todd to do our album cover and he seemed real
enthusiastic about it. we were really excited and everyone was kind of surprised
that he was anxious to work with us as we hoped he would be. i guess we didn't
think he would be into it that much, doing the album cover, but he came back to
us right away saying he would love to do it. we were blown away. we didn't think
this guy would want to work with us as much and like the band that much.
question: what are your personal goals for elementree records?
david: my goal is for it to be a real record label. we see things
happening in the business with other bands, like we see them being signed and
then the way they're treated throughout their career. we think we can take
everything we know and put it all to use in a positive way and actually create a
good record label, actually sign good bands, make a success out of it and
hopefully earn our way to be taken seriously in the record industry.
question: how much of hand do you have in the running of the label and
overseeing the progress of a band's development once they're signed?
david: our main job is to sign bands to the label. as far as running
the company and overseeing it, we actually have as much involvement in that as
we want to have. when we're on the road it's obviously harder for us to do it.
we have phone meetings and sometimes in-person meetings with our management,
with whom we're also partners with in the label and who run most of the
day-to-day stuff. we get updates on everything that's going on, and obviously we
ask a lot of questions. as much as we want to be involved, we can be on every
aspect of it, from just the signing, to the recording, to any of it,
advertising, anything.
question: what inspired you to create the "family values” tour?
david: we saw other festival type tours out there and there really
weren't any of them we wanted to be on. so we thought, "why don't we try put
together our own festival and we can pick the bands and determine the vibe of
the festival and how it's run and where we go with it?” we thought we would give
it a shot. so, we got some partners together to help us with it and starting
creating the tour. we put everyone's ideas in a pot and started writing out a
map for it. it actually ended up being really good, and we thought we could do
something better than what was out there.
question: can you describe the on-stage chemistry in korn?
david: i would say the chemistry is a very comfortable feeling. we
have been playing together for so long, everyone feels like we're tight, like
everyone thinking as one. even though our backs are turned to each other on the
stage, it seems like everyone is kind connected through the mind. obviously
there are some days that we feel like we're more "on” than other days, and we're
all thinking in the same way even more.
question: what inspired you to create "korn-tv," the internet network,
and where do you hope to take it in the future? david: i think we
just wanted to find out new ways to reach out to internet users. we had internet
shows for our last record, and they went over really well. we just wanted to
take it further, do something even more original and bigger for this next
record. i guess we'll figure out more stuff to do on the internet. just try to
keep everything fresh and new and be one of the leaders.
question: what's your favorite song on the album? david: i
think it's "b.b.k." i just like the groove of it.
question: from "all in the family," what's your favorite anti-jonathan
line and your favorite anti-fred line? david: i think i like when
fred calls jon austin powers and bags on his teeth, and i think i like when jon
calls fred a hillbilly.
question: if you had the chance to change places with any other member
of the band, who would it be and why? david: i wouldn't. i like what
i do, and i like my life. i wouldn't want to have any other life but my own. i
found a happy place.
question: what five albums would you want to be stranded on a deserted
island with? david: i'd say filter's "shortbus," blondie's "greatest
hits," orgy's "candyass," i guess our new record. gotta be honest. um...let me
think. probably helmet's "meantime." and weezer's first album.
question: if you could bring five items with you on the road from your
house, what would you take? david: i don't know, i'd bring
everything. my refrigerator, all the food in it. my bed. my dune-buggy. all of
it.
question: describe your life, right now in five words or less.
david: near perfect.
question: if you could open for one of your favorite musicians, dead
or alive, who would it be? david: jane's addiction.
question: what's the best advice you have for an aspiring musician?
david: persistence. try to do the best you can do.
question: now the family values trek is all over, how did that work out
in the end? was it better than you expected? jonathan: yeah, it was
better than we expected. it was really a big success. we were doing it... the
whole concept of it. i just found out we got nominated by pollstar for the like,
most creative set design... we got all these award nominations. it was really
incredible, just to see how we all pulled it off - all the work that went into
it and it came out great. and we were doing the numbers, because we were always
comparing back to when we did lollapalooza and the numbers were way higher. so,
we know we were doing good. you know, it's just a trip for us - our first time
playing arenas and there's only so many bands that can do that. it was a trip
for us. i remember when we were opening for ozzy, we'd look out there and say
nobody can fuckin' do places like that, you know, just ozzy. we'd always been
opening for bands doing that, like ozzy and metallica and now we're doing it
ourselves. it's good.
question: any thoughts at all about next year? jonathan:
next year we start on the 12th, we leave for australia. we're gonna do big day
out there, that's for two weeks then we go to japan for a couple of shows and
come home. we've got a couple weeks off and then we start this big tour with rob
zombie.
question: okay, looking ahead - what sort of dates are we looking at
for europe? jonathan: i think it's may? might be april? hey, it's
right after the zombie tour. we've got a week off and then we leave. the dates
aren't all confirmed yet, but we know we're playing london... we're playing 13
shows in all.
question: and do you have any plans beyond europe? we've had people
asking about south america for example? jonathan: not right now at
this time, we don't have anything scheduled like that.
question: a lot of people commented on the recent spin magazine interview
where some of the guys suggested cutting out a part of the upcoming freak on a
leash single. what sort of reasoning went behind that - is that really going to
happen? jonathan: no. it wasn't written right.
question: so basically, it was taken out of
context? jonathan: yeah, it was. it made us look bad. basically that
magazine sucks. i hate 'em... it's fuckin' funny. we did that shit and like,
wanna know how much assholes spin are? you know how manson just got busted for
beating that guy up? when we were doing that spin cover their art director
almost got his ass beat by our guys too because he's such a fuckin' cock. he's
not a nice guy. they totally fucked us over on that cover - we're all in monkey
suits? we didn't take that picture. they fuckin' put our faces on using a
computer; they photoshop'ed that shit and we had no control over it. they're
fuckin' dickheads. we hate that fuckin' magazine. so anything in that shit was
bullshit.
question: with this talk of the sell-out notion, what do you make of
all the sudden mtv attention? you've said before about debating the point of
filming a video that'll only get shown at 3am and now... jonathan:
...and now they're playing the shit? it's fuckin' cool though, at least we're
making some leeway. you know, fuck it, someone's gotta bring rock back. now, i'm
not saying we're trying to be the saviours of fuckin' heavy rock or whatever but
you gotta do it to make it come back. and there's things like bands like limp
bizkit doing really good, that kid rock kid's doing good now... all these bands
are coming out starting to bring heavy music back. so, anything we can do to get
it back - fuck, we're happy! we've fought so fuckin' hard to get where we're at
and so, yeah, to have them embrace us is pretty cool.
question: you've just got married recently - so, how's married life
then? jonathan: aww... married life? it's the same... all i did was
ink the deal! man, i gave her a wedding she will never forget!
question: the old-school circa 1500 theme? jonthan: oh,
fully... it was full-on mediaeval. i was fully in all armour and wearing a kings
crown; she's a fairy. there were all kinds of little fairies and sprites jumping
in the trees and shit, it was crazy.
question: where did you get the idea? jonthan: renée came up
with it... we were like sitting there and thought wouldn't it be really badass
to be all medieval. we saw that film... remember excalibur? kinda like that, and
she went on from there and did it all up.it was a fuckin' bad-ass wedding....it
was definitely dope. people were trippin' the fuck out. everybody had to dress
in costumes and shit so it was just a fun time. the whole thing... the castle we
were in and everything... the whole thing was just awesome.
question: going back to the band and the upcoming "freak on a leash"
single, when do think that'll be out? some time between now and the
tour? jonathan: i think we're releasing the single in january. we're
shooting the video next weekend for it.
question: without giving too much away, any hints as to the theme the
video? jonthan: we got todd mcfarlane animating some of it. and dayton
and ferris, the two who did the pumpkins videos and a whole bunch of other
videos - they're doing it. it's going to be bad-ass, it's going to trip some
people out.
question: how about the family values cd, how's that looking for
release soon? jonathan: i don't know. we're still working on it right
now, listening to tapes and shit and getting all that bullshit out of the way.
but it'll be coming out - a family values live cd and there's going to be a
family values long-form video. so they're both going to be coming out sometime
next year - like i say, we're just in the process of listening to the tapes and
making sure everything's good.
question: on the video, is that going to follow something along the
lines of the "who then now" footage? jonathan: yeah, it's gonna be
kinda like that. but it's a whole tour. we're using the mtv special footage of
the band but all the shit in-between of the band, that's all gonna be like "who
then now?"
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